Mullen’s stern warning to Canadian politicians: ‘We’re going to go where the capital goes’
Mullen Group is increasingly likely to invest capital into the U.S. market if Canadian politicians don’t “get their act together” in response to the threat of U.S. tariffs.
Speaking to analysts on a Q4 earnings call on Feb. 13, chairman and senior executive officer Murray Mullen made no secret that he’s more bullish on the U.S. market than in Canada.

“It really depends on Canada’s response to how it’s going to be competitive with the Americans,” Mullen told analysts. “If Canada doesn’t get its act together – the politicians and Canadians – we’re going to turn our attention to the U.S.”
So far, he doesn’t like what he sees. He noted that trucking businesses in the U.S. are excited about the growth opportunities they see under the Trump administration. “Up here, we’re on our heels a bit,” he said.
Mullen sees no economic growth for Canada this year. “If they’re going to win, we’ve got to follow the money,” Mullen said of the U.S., noting the Canadian dollar is “worth nothing.”
“If Canada is not a place to deploy capital, we’re not going to deploy it here,” he added, noting the company has pivoted in the past due to changing market dynamics, such as when it lessened its reliance on oil and gas. “I hope I don’t have to pivot away from Canada, but I have to do what’s best for our shareholders and if pivoting away is required for our shareholders, I’ll pivot.”
The U.S. trucking industry, Mullen reiterated, is flashing signs of improving demand and increased optimism. Mullen Group currently operates a 3PL business in the U.S.
While Mullen remains poised to make acquisitions on either side of the border, those will have to fit three criteria: the target must be a good fit with Mullen Group; the price must allow for an ROI; and there must be synergies available.
Mullen was coy about the type of acquisition he’d seek south of the border, but he indicated it wouldn’t be LTL. “We can’t get big enough,” he said of becoming an LTL player in the U.S. “We’re looking at other verticals where we think there’s opportunity. I can’t say more than that. We’re going to go where the capital goes.”
Financial results
Mullen Group posted Q4 and full-year 2024 earnings Wednesday evening, with revenue basically flat for the quarter and full-year periods.
Profit slipped by $10.5 million, or 35.7%, to $18.9 million on the quarter due largely to foreign exchange implications related to the company’s acquisition of ContainerWorld Forwarding Services. Adjusted net income was down 6.3% on the quarter and 11% on the year.
Mullen praised his business units and their people for weathering a difficult year.
“It took a lot of hard work by everyone in our 40 business units and at corporate office to mitigate the very challenging market conditions,” Mullen said. “Not only was demand soft, but pricing pressures intensified, due to undisciplined competition. These were difficult issues to deal with, so for Mullen Group to accomplish what we did last year, keeping revenues flat and improving operating income before depreciation and amortization, is something all of our business associates and teams can be proud of.”
In written comments, Mullen said: “From a demand perspective, I do not believe that 2025 will be any better than last year. The Canadian economy remains rangebound, at best, with downside risks emerging due to the potential for trade disruptions between Canada and the U.S. And, when you couple trade disruptions along with the fact that Canada is lagging in terms of capital investment, the only conclusion that I come to is that the demand for freight services will continue to underwhelm.”
When it comes to Q4 revenue by segment, LTL was down 0.3%, logistics and warehousing up 14.3%, specialized and industrial down 15.3%, and U.S. 3PL was off 0.4%.
Supply and demand will dictate growth opportunities
Mullen admitted he sees little growth coming to the Canadian economy in 2025, while “costs remain elevated due to inflation and legacy costs.”
He said the company will remain “ultra-cautious” until it sees signs of stabilization. Market improvements will be driven by only two factors: growing demand and reduced supply. Mullen doesn’t expect the former to happen this year.
“We made an assumption, we think [the Canadian economy] is going to be about the same,” he said. “We don’t see any uptick. We don’t see Canadians having more disposable income, so we think the demand side is going to be relatively flat.”
He does, however, expect to see capacity further sucked out of the market.
“We’ve had too much supply and that’s why prices have been so low, and customers have been taking advantage of that situation,” Mullen said. “There’s excess supply so they win. It’s going to revert to the mean. Our competition is weak and dying. Until then it’s just a fistfight.”
In the meantime, Mullen said the company will adjust and adapt to changing market conditions as required, in close communication with customers. And if it can’t find attractive acquisition opportunities, Mullen said the company will invest in itself through share buybacks.
He also said he’s grateful to have a strong balance sheet during such an uncertain time. “Our shareholders don’t have to worry about their dividend and our people don’t have to worry about their jobs.”
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Truth to power. Anyone in Ottawa listening? Mullen is more frank and is saying the quiet part out loud here. The performative politics currently being practiced in this country are leading to its economic demise and Canadians are ready to work hard and take our country forward. We need common sense leadership and a strong Canada-first policy. Let’s remember that when we have the opportunity to vote for the next national government.
Murray Mullen is telling the truth to Canadians!!!
We should be the richest country on earth, instead we have food banks.
We have all the resources, farmland and semi educated people!!
This is all because of poor leadership.
Trump has brought reality to the U.S. market and Canada needs to get our act together to compete, after years of listening to the Woke and DEI, and Climate fanatics.
Let’s get with the program!!
We don’t need your trucks, go work for Trump, by. now.
Don’t let the door hit ya where evolution split ya
We must “follow the money,” even if it leads to a fascist leader threatening to impose 25% tariffs on our products, minimizing Canada’s existence to a mere 51st state or more likely a non-voting territory like Puerto Rico, and dictate our country’s politics.
Indeed, we can lay the blame for all our economic woes at the feet of the man residing at 24 Sussex Drive because it is his politics that triggered the tariff threats, and we must appease the monster on our southern border. Besides, it is a favorite pastime and fashionable, especially in Alberta, to trash our current leader and his record.
It is one thing to lobby for a change in Ottawa, but it is quite another to completely ignore the flagrant ravaging of the founding principles and constitution in the US, and to remain silent about such a destructive process under the guise of “creating value for shareholders.”
“Following the money” sounds like a logical and profitable endeavour but at what cost? What about our principles? What about our integrity? Is there no higher calling for a leader than to follow the money?
The path of following the money that the US leader also espouses is well trodden and history has lessons as to where it leads. Like the man in the dessert who saw an oasis just on the horizon, but never quite reached it.
Nice summary James… nice summary Mr. Mullen… the trucking industry is in the open/free market… supply and demand… the shipper/receiver vrs Carrier market is no different than the Capital market… it flows towards opportunity… the roots of opportunity are grounded in reality… way too many politicians have their roots somewhere in a space time continuum, nowhere near reality. Sobriety is coming back, common sense the foundation for the future… this is not a Canada vs USA thing… its a movement of common sense. Just as USA needs to balance their budget, Canada does too. If it doesn’t soon… we WILL be the 51st state bought at bargain basement prices…
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“Sobriety” and “a movement of common sense” according the your stated definition, says that our southern neighbor is behind its so called re-appearance when in reality, nothing, I mean abslutely nothing happens in the US without it being politicized. Everything from bad weather to viruses to plane crashes is blamed on one political party while the other takes credit for everything positive.
Free market forces are one of the first casualties of autocratic leanings.
We either fall in line with very clear political directives or we are left out.
Albert Camus said “When democracy is sick, fascism comes to its bedside but it is not to check on its health.”
Since Mullen group is acting up with bullying like Trump does ,we the customer and carrier should show him the way to the border and tell him to stay there and do not come back, we should not give him any freight for is 3pl and is group of companies and see wath exactly wil happen and bring your friends with the same attitude to ,,
bully’s with bully’s and we will do our thingwithout you
like our Fellow Bullier (Trump) said we do not need canada so canada does not need the Mulling group.